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		<title>By: Alan</title>
		<link>http://www.alannoah.com/2008/08/15/death-to-dvds/#comment-2988</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 15:39:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to &lt;a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/26/movie-labels-to-launch-new-open-market-play-anywhere-scheme-as-last-ditch-effort-to-save-drm/" rel="nofollow"&gt;this news story&lt;/a&gt;, a bunch of movie studios and retailers are working on making a "standard" DRM type of format that will be much more compatible across various formats.  It's not ideal by any stretch (especially considering that these guys just won't let go of DRM), but it could be at the very least a step in the right direction...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to <a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/26/movie-labels-to-launch-new-open-market-play-anywhere-scheme-as-last-ditch-effort-to-save-drm/" rel="nofollow">this news story</a>, a bunch of movie studios and retailers are working on making a &#8220;standard&#8221; DRM type of format that will be much more compatible across various formats.  It&#8217;s not ideal by any stretch (especially considering that these guys just won&#8217;t let go of DRM), but it could be at the very least a step in the right direction&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: meh</title>
		<link>http://www.alannoah.com/2008/08/15/death-to-dvds/#comment-2910</link>
		<dc:creator>meh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 17:01:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James, I think thats mostly because albums sucked at around the time CDs were becoming popular.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James, I think thats mostly because albums sucked at around the time CDs were becoming popular.</p>
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		<title>By: james</title>
		<link>http://www.alannoah.com/2008/08/15/death-to-dvds/#comment-2905</link>
		<dc:creator>james</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 23:13:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it's precisely that: $19.99 for a dvd (and $30 for a blu-ray), when the public knows how cheap they cost to produce.    

I mean, we moan, but we really don't fret about paying $12 for a movie ticket, because we enjoy the experience.  But the public hated paying $16 for a cd that they knew cost $1 to make, but they were ok paying $0.99 for the 1/16th they actually wanted.  It's as if you had to pay $120 for a 10-feature movie at the theatre.

The internet shows what a creative mind can do with the right know-how (netflix, itunes).  The VOD services are all folding, but someone will get it right soon.  I mean, webvans lost $300 million in startup capital, and then freshdirect does the same thing and makes a killing, all because they did it better.

But good downloadable content also won't be ready for at least 10 years because internet speeds aren't nearly fast enough to download 1080i movies instantly.  So we'll have to settle for the physical media for the time being.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s precisely that: $19.99 for a dvd (and $30 for a blu-ray), when the public knows how cheap they cost to produce.    </p>
<p>I mean, we moan, but we really don&#8217;t fret about paying $12 for a movie ticket, because we enjoy the experience.  But the public hated paying $16 for a cd that they knew cost $1 to make, but they were ok paying $0.99 for the 1/16th they actually wanted.  It&#8217;s as if you had to pay $120 for a 10-feature movie at the theatre.</p>
<p>The internet shows what a creative mind can do with the right know-how (netflix, itunes).  The VOD services are all folding, but someone will get it right soon.  I mean, webvans lost $300 million in startup capital, and then freshdirect does the same thing and makes a killing, all because they did it better.</p>
<p>But good downloadable content also won&#8217;t be ready for at least 10 years because internet speeds aren&#8217;t nearly fast enough to download 1080i movies instantly.  So we&#8217;ll have to settle for the physical media for the time being.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
		<link>http://www.alannoah.com/2008/08/15/death-to-dvds/#comment-2901</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 18:37:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hold on a sec - I only own one copy of Star Wars on DVD, that happens to be the updated and enhanced version.  When the separate versions came out that were UN-enhanced, I thought about getting them, but I figured the ones I had were good enough.

(How many different versions I have of the original trilogy on VHS is another story altogether...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hold on a sec - I only own one copy of Star Wars on DVD, that happens to be the updated and enhanced version.  When the separate versions came out that were UN-enhanced, I thought about getting them, but I figured the ones I had were good enough.</p>
<p>(How many different versions I have of the original trilogy on VHS is another story altogether&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: The Wife</title>
		<link>http://www.alannoah.com/2008/08/15/death-to-dvds/#comment-2900</link>
		<dc:creator>The Wife</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 18:18:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This coming from the man who owns every updated, enhanced, etc version of Star Wars. If you can't practice what you preach, why should anyone else?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This coming from the man who owns every updated, enhanced, etc version of Star Wars. If you can&#8217;t practice what you preach, why should anyone else?</p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
		<link>http://www.alannoah.com/2008/08/15/death-to-dvds/#comment-2896</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:45:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Uri - I would think that keeping everything in "the cloud" would be tougher for would-be pirates than keeping all the media as downloadable, but either way, some kid with a lot of time on his hands would find a way.  But at the same time, people will be willing to pay when the content is good, AND when they don't feel they are being taken advantage of.

You're right that the big companies will be reluctant to change their business models, as they want to make more money.  But keep in mind that the home video market is sagging, and there are definitely new ways for the companies to make money.  If a DVD costs $19.99 now, the studio could sell access to it at the same price later.  Even if the manufacturing costs are minimal, that's still an increase in their profit margins.

And of course, there can be compromises.  Like if Fox didn't want to just give away access to people who already bought The Simpsons DVDs, they could offer a rebate of a few bucks for each DVD set that could go towards access to the new version of the content.  

@meh - As much as I'd love to drop $400 on that thing, I still wouldn't be able to watch my movies and shows on my commute.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Uri - I would think that keeping everything in &#8220;the cloud&#8221; would be tougher for would-be pirates than keeping all the media as downloadable, but either way, some kid with a lot of time on his hands would find a way.  But at the same time, people will be willing to pay when the content is good, AND when they don&#8217;t feel they are being taken advantage of.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right that the big companies will be reluctant to change their business models, as they want to make more money.  But keep in mind that the home video market is sagging, and there are definitely new ways for the companies to make money.  If a DVD costs $19.99 now, the studio could sell access to it at the same price later.  Even if the manufacturing costs are minimal, that&#8217;s still an increase in their profit margins.</p>
<p>And of course, there can be compromises.  Like if Fox didn&#8217;t want to just give away access to people who already bought The Simpsons DVDs, they could offer a rebate of a few bucks for each DVD set that could go towards access to the new version of the content.  </p>
<p>@meh - As much as I&#8217;d love to drop $400 on that thing, I still wouldn&#8217;t be able to watch my movies and shows on my commute.</p>
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		<title>By: meh</title>
		<link>http://www.alannoah.com/2008/08/15/death-to-dvds/#comment-2894</link>
		<dc:creator>meh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 15:25:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>your biggest complaint is that after watching 6 episodes of the simpsons, you'd have to get up from your couch?

...you could always try using this:
http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10551&#38;storeId=10151&#38;langId=-1&#38;productId=11038348&#38;XID=O:sony%20400%20dvd%20changer:dg_hav_gglsrch</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>your biggest complaint is that after watching 6 episodes of the simpsons, you&#8217;d have to get up from your couch?</p>
<p>&#8230;you could always try using this:<br />
<a href="http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10551&amp;storeId=10151&amp;langId=-1&amp;productId=11038348&amp;XID=O:sony%20400%20dvd%20changer:dg_hav_gglsrch" rel="nofollow">http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10551&amp;storeId=10151&amp;langId=-1&amp;productId=11038348&amp;XID=O:sony%20400%20dvd%20changer:dg_hav_gglsrch</a></p>
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		<title>By: Uri</title>
		<link>http://www.alannoah.com/2008/08/15/death-to-dvds/#comment-2889</link>
		<dc:creator>Uri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 14:04:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Media can't be stored on a central media server for legal reasons. Basically, movie studios view it as competition for Video on Demand and are afraid that people will find a way to sniff content from other people.

More importantly, they don't like to change their business model, even if it means the chance of more money because there is also some risk. They are making good money today and that is good enough for them. I don't think that they care much for what the consumer wants and making it cheaper for you to do all these different things is certainly not in their interest (remember manufacturing/transmission costs are trivial so you saving money means them just making less).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Media can&#8217;t be stored on a central media server for legal reasons. Basically, movie studios view it as competition for Video on Demand and are afraid that people will find a way to sniff content from other people.</p>
<p>More importantly, they don&#8217;t like to change their business model, even if it means the chance of more money because there is also some risk. They are making good money today and that is good enough for them. I don&#8217;t think that they care much for what the consumer wants and making it cheaper for you to do all these different things is certainly not in their interest (remember manufacturing/transmission costs are trivial so you saving money means them just making less).</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.alannoah.com/2008/08/15/death-to-dvds/#comment-2887</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 04:58:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed.  I've been saying for a few years that optical media (CDs, DVDs, ETCs) is doomed (and the sooner the better).  

This applies to video games as well...anything where a scratch on the disc ruins everything.

The other "biggest problem" right now is that our current bandwidth via Cable/DSL/FIOS/whatever isn't QUITE fast enough to store ALL of our content (movies, music, pictures, games, documents) in the "Cloud"...but we're getting there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed.  I&#8217;ve been saying for a few years that optical media (CDs, DVDs, ETCs) is doomed (and the sooner the better).  </p>
<p>This applies to video games as well&#8230;anything where a scratch on the disc ruins everything.</p>
<p>The other &#8220;biggest problem&#8221; right now is that our current bandwidth via Cable/DSL/FIOS/whatever isn&#8217;t QUITE fast enough to store ALL of our content (movies, music, pictures, games, documents) in the &#8220;Cloud&#8221;&#8230;but we&#8217;re getting there.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
		<link>http://www.alannoah.com/2008/08/15/death-to-dvds/#comment-2884</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 17:50:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I meant to write 2160q, as in double 1080 and the letter after p.  I was just making up something that could come after 1080p, making the point that it too will someday be outdated.

What makes my plan most unrealistic is the fact that people keep shelling out for multiple copies of the same thing.  If people were to stop doing that and the industry were to hurt more, they would have to focus on other ways of generating revenue.  But as I said, the possibility exists for a much bigger profit margin for the studios because of all the savings with digital distribution.  

Sure, no one wants to hear a commentary with no-names, but maybe a new commentary with Matthew Broderick on Ferris Bueller's Day Off would be enough to get people to shell out a few bucks for it.  And considering that recording such a track would be exceedingly cheap, it could be worthwhile.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I meant to write 2160q, as in double 1080 and the letter after p.  I was just making up something that could come after 1080p, making the point that it too will someday be outdated.</p>
<p>What makes my plan most unrealistic is the fact that people keep shelling out for multiple copies of the same thing.  If people were to stop doing that and the industry were to hurt more, they would have to focus on other ways of generating revenue.  But as I said, the possibility exists for a much bigger profit margin for the studios because of all the savings with digital distribution.  </p>
<p>Sure, no one wants to hear a commentary with no-names, but maybe a new commentary with Matthew Broderick on Ferris Bueller&#8217;s Day Off would be enough to get people to shell out a few bucks for it.  And considering that recording such a track would be exceedingly cheap, it could be worthwhile.</p>
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