Comments on: My Love/Hate/Love Relationship With “Terminator” http://www.alannoah.com/2008/04/23/my-lovehatelove-relationship-with-terminator/ What's on my mind today? Fri, 03 Feb 2012 16:57:47 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9 hourly 1 By: Alan http://www.alannoah.com/2008/04/23/my-lovehatelove-relationship-with-terminator/comment-page-1/#comment-1836 Alan Sat, 26 Apr 2008 16:20:30 +0000 http://www.alannoah.com/2008/04/23/my-lovehatelove-relationship-with-terminator/#comment-1836 In all fairness, I only saw T3 once, but the thought of sitting through it again makes me slightly nauseous. @james - You make a good point about the end of the world scenarios in movies, but like you say, they all tend to be the same. Machines take over. Computers enslave humanity. A man-made disease decimates society. And it's not like the natural disaster flicks have been anything besides <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0319262/" rel="nofollow">awful</a>. Maybe they should just stop making end-of-the-world movies already. We get it. And besides, the most accurate depiction of humanity's future was probably best told in a movie that <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0387808/" rel="nofollow">wasn't even a little sci-fi</a>... In all fairness, I only saw T3 once, but the thought of sitting through it again makes me slightly nauseous.

@james – You make a good point about the end of the world scenarios in movies, but like you say, they all tend to be the same. Machines take over. Computers enslave humanity. A man-made disease decimates society. And it’s not like the natural disaster flicks have been anything besides awful. Maybe they should just stop making end-of-the-world movies already. We get it. And besides, the most accurate depiction of humanity’s future was probably best told in a movie that wasn’t even a little sci-fi…

]]> By: Raf http://www.alannoah.com/2008/04/23/my-lovehatelove-relationship-with-terminator/comment-page-1/#comment-1805 Raf Fri, 25 Apr 2008 20:19:53 +0000 http://www.alannoah.com/2008/04/23/my-lovehatelove-relationship-with-terminator/#comment-1805 Hey, it's cool you like this show. I LOVE T2 - it is, alongside the original Holy Trilogy (starwars), my favorite movie ever. I also loved the original, cheesy special effects aside (understandable, it was 1984). However, T3 was a big pile of crap, which, I'm sorry, is a bigger pile of crap with each successive viewing. Awful. The only reason they made that movie was that Arnie wanted and got something like 30 mill for it, and the producers thought they would milk the franchise for all the money they could. I'm emmbarrased to admit that I paid my 10 bucks to see it - should have given it to a homeless dude. The whole story should have ended at T2. If you watch the original ending Cameron shot - it was perfect, it was the main characters in the future, no war happened, they stopped Judgment day etc. Perfect. He changed it to a more ambiguous ending, but still it was an ending. But Hollywood always has to f-up every great movie by making a horrible sequel. Oh well... I too was very skeptical of the series, but I did give it a shot - probably because they promoted the hell out of it during the football playoffs. And I agree with you, it was very uneven at first; I did catch the inconsistency of how Cameron was totally convincing as a teenage girl in the Pilot, but afterwards acted really bizzare in school. And I felt throughout the season (short as it was) that there was something missing, but I couldn't quite place it (it was probably James Cameron that was missing). But I really started to like it towards the end. And, god help me, I also thought B.A.Green's episodes were the best. At first, every time he came on screen I heard the 90201 theme playing in my head, but after a while it went away. So, I am also glad the show is coming back. But if they cast Luke Perry as the terminator, I'm outta here... Hey, it’s cool you like this show. I LOVE T2 – it is, alongside the original Holy Trilogy (starwars), my favorite movie ever. I also loved the original, cheesy special effects aside (understandable, it was 1984). However, T3 was a big pile of crap, which, I’m sorry, is a bigger pile of crap with each successive viewing. Awful. The only reason they made that movie was that Arnie wanted and got something like 30 mill for it, and the producers thought they would milk the franchise for all the money they could. I’m emmbarrased to admit that I paid my 10 bucks to see it – should have given it to a homeless dude. The whole story should have ended at T2. If you watch the original ending Cameron shot – it was perfect, it was the main characters in the future, no war happened, they stopped Judgment day etc. Perfect. He changed it to a more ambiguous ending, but still it was an ending. But Hollywood always has to f-up every great movie by making a horrible sequel. Oh well… I too was very skeptical of the series, but I did give it a shot – probably because they promoted the hell out of it during the football playoffs. And I agree with you, it was very uneven at first; I did catch the inconsistency of how Cameron was totally convincing as a teenage girl in the Pilot, but afterwards acted really bizzare in school. And I felt throughout the season (short as it was) that there was something missing, but I couldn’t quite place it (it was probably James Cameron that was missing). But I really started to like it towards the end. And, god help me, I also thought B.A.Green’s episodes were the best. At first, every time he came on screen I heard the 90201 theme playing in my head, but after a while it went away. So, I am also glad the show is coming back. But if they cast Luke Perry as the terminator, I’m outta here…

]]> By: james http://www.alannoah.com/2008/04/23/my-lovehatelove-relationship-with-terminator/comment-page-1/#comment-1787 james Fri, 25 Apr 2008 18:02:21 +0000 http://www.alannoah.com/2008/04/23/my-lovehatelove-relationship-with-terminator/#comment-1787 Actually, T3 really holds up on repeat viewings. I really like its director too - he made one of my favorite (and underrated/unknown) movies ever, Breakdown. Forget Die Hard... if you want to see an everyman in a crazy action situation, Kurt Russell *is* that guy. And even though it's pessimistic than T1 or T2, it actually makes more sense that humans will eventually (inevitably) create Skynet. Katrinas, Tsunamis and Earthquakes... as bad (horrible) as they are, they're not going to destroy the human race. By 2008, we're too smart and our technology is now too powerful to actually be affected permanently by these events. That's why modern end-of-the-world stories need to have plausible antagonists that really could decimate humans in 2008. Look at 28 Days Later, I Am Legend or Terminator. It's the same story: the end of the world is our own fault *because* we're too smart and our technology is too powerful that our own hubris winds up giving humanity a run for its money... So while Terminator gets an A and T2 gets an A+, Terminator 3 is a solid B+ in my opinion. Oh, and Sarah Connor Chronicles first season was great too. I agree too, the Brian Austin Green episodes were (very surprisingly) the best ones, especially where they linked with the "future scenes" from T1 & T2. Actually, T3 really holds up on repeat viewings. I really like its director too – he made one of my favorite (and underrated/unknown) movies ever, Breakdown. Forget Die Hard… if you want to see an everyman in a crazy action situation, Kurt Russell *is* that guy.

And even though it’s pessimistic than T1 or T2, it actually makes more sense that humans will eventually (inevitably) create Skynet. Katrinas, Tsunamis and Earthquakes… as bad (horrible) as they are, they’re not going to destroy the human race. By 2008, we’re too smart and our technology is now too powerful to actually be affected permanently by these events. That’s why modern end-of-the-world stories need to have plausible antagonists that really could decimate humans in 2008. Look at 28 Days Later, I Am Legend or Terminator. It’s the same story: the end of the world is our own fault *because* we’re too smart and our technology is too powerful that our own hubris winds up giving humanity a run for its money…

So while Terminator gets an A and T2 gets an A+, Terminator 3 is a solid B+ in my opinion.

Oh, and Sarah Connor Chronicles first season was great too. I agree too, the Brian Austin Green episodes were (very surprisingly) the best ones, especially where they linked with the “future scenes” from T1 & T2.

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